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Sign ordinance revision? ASSISTANT CITY PLANNER? Where do these busybodies get off?

The best govt. is the least govt.!

just give me good schools, streets, cops, water, sewer, and a fire dept. and then leave me alone!!!

Who is running (ruining) our town?

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REALLY? Really? THIS is what you have to ***** about? That they are trying to make the City look better? This is an issue why?
 
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Personally, sometimes I have trouble in forums figuring out who's being sarcastic or voicing in the contrary to try to make a point. The limitations of text can bewilder me sometimes.

Some people very firmly believe that any government need be kept to a bare minimum, whatever the issue. Not sure though why signs are an issue though. I hope the original poster clarifies.
 
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You must not own a business or plan on a garage sale...... Is there any area you don't think the government knows better than the individual
 
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quote:
Originally posted by magicrat:
The best govt. is the least govt.!


Agreed

Having said that,

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Originally posted by magicrat:
Is there any area you don't think the government knows better than the individual


Is there any area you don't think that the City of Enid is doing something wrong?

Seriously, almost every city has ordinances dealing with signage and they are often updated. This is not abnormal.
 
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how about increasing freedom instead of constantly eroding it?

how bout lowering taxes instead of constantly increasing them?

Enid is headed the wrong way.
 
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If you knew what you were talking about at all you would know that the changes made were mostly for clarification of the ALREADY existing ordinance and that it WILL NOT AFFECT ALREADY EXISTING BUSINESSES. AND in addition, the ordinance meets the retail standard, so no, the City is not screwing anyone over in any way at all. Also, we have to comply with STATE statutes and the International Building Code.

The dissemination of misinformation is ridiculous.

And you are still allowed to post garage sale signs.
 
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Quit going ad hominum Tammy. make a point without insulting people. Is that what we have to look forward to your council tenure? a continuation of the Criner insult-a-thon?

the ordinance further restricts businesses. that's anti-freedom. it has nothing to do with the building code or state statutes.

are you anti-freedom? pro government nanny state?
 
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Don't insult peoples' intelligence by misstating facts.

It does not restrict existing businesses.

It's not any different than any city in the country. Every city has sign ordinances.

Freedom? BS. Every business has the freedom to erect a sign so long as they comply with the rules. No one has the freedom to run amok and do whatever they want.
 
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now i feel like i'm in Orwell's "1984". a restriction is not a restriction.


That's where the city gov't in Enid is now. sad.
 
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Please explain how you are sorely restricted by this sign ordinance.
 
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a nervous nellie's "running amok" might be a reasonable man's "normal".

more freedom. less government, less stupid rules....


a 35 foot sign is prohibited now. banners prohibited. many others restricted more than before.

the reason: "clean up" the jews.... oh yeah, not the jews... the city...... Godwin's law.
 
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Only a NEW 35 foot sign is prohibited - to 30 feet - woo hoo.

Banners are trashy looking. Our skyline is trashy looking.
 
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a nanny gov't lovers "trashy looking" might be a free man's "reasonable"
 
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I think you just look for reasons to complain. I think you read a headline and then make up the rest of the story to suit you.
 
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