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The ENE editor will soon be leaving town along with many others. They are fortunate to be able leave this community with its city government that is at odds with what appears to be the consensus of the majority of the people. Personally, this writer is increasingly leaning toward selling his real estate and moving as well. Enid is no longer the community that I have enjoyed for the better part of 75 years.
 
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While I do grow weary of the constant battles regarding the city and the public, I think there have been some real improvements in the nearly 10 years I've lived here. The city isn't perfect and the city staff and commissioners certainly know my opinion when I think they could have done something better. However, I also try to let them know when I think they've done something right -- and they've done quite a few things right.

What is pervasive in this community that I have not seen anywhere else is the level of mistrust and discontent of a very vocal crowd in this community. I've lived in a lot of small communities, but Enid, by far, has the worst "poor me" community attitude of any city I've lived in. And I've lived in communities that had had far fewer economic and quality of life advantages than Enid has. I think the pervasiveness of this attitude has sometimes turned into self-fulfilling prophecy.

I have valued my time in Enid and I see the potential and good things the community has to offer. I also see a real desire by many inside and outside of the city government to try to make things better, more attractive and more lucrative for business and industries here. There are a lot of things in place to take advantage of economic development opportunity.

And taxes? Count your blessings. I'm getting ready to pay a whole bunch more taxes -- property and sales taxes -- when I move to a larger city. The way I figure it will be double what I'm paying now.
 
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While I do grow weary of the constant battles regarding the city and the public, I think there have been some real improvements in the nearly 10 years I've lived here. The city isn't perfect and the city staff and commissioners certainly know my opinion when I think they could have done something better. However, I also try to let them know when I think they've done something right -- and they've done quite a few things right.

What is pervasive in this community that I have not seen anywhere else is the level of mistrust and discontent of a very vocal crowd in this community. I've lived in a lot of small communities, but Enid, by far, has the worst "poor me" community attitude of any city I've lived in. And I've lived in communities that had had far fewer economic and quality of life advantages than Enid has. I think the pervasiveness of this attitude has sometimes turned into self-fulfilling prophecy.

I have valued my time in Enid and I see the potential and good things the community has to offer. I also see a real desire by many inside and outside of the city government to try to make things better, more attractive and more lucrative for business and industries here. There are a lot of things in place to take advantage of economic development opportunity.

And taxes? Count your blessings. I'm getting ready to pay a whole bunch more taxes -- property and sales taxes -- when I move to a larger city. The way I figure it will be double what I'm paying now.
CINDY WHY ARE YOU MOVING??
 
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My husband is a geologist with Continental Resources.
 
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My husband is a geologist with Continental Resources.
cool you wil love okc, i grew up there. at least you wont be far.
 
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I lived in OKC just as Bricktown was getting started. Back then the concept was called String of Pearls. Very familiar with OKC and have a lot of contacts and good friends there. I will still be in Enid for quite sometime, though. The move won't take place until 2012.

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While I do grow weary of the constant battles regarding the city and the public, I think there have been some real improvements in the nearly 10 years I've lived here. The city isn't perfect and the city staff and commissioners certainly know my opinion when I think they could have done something better. However, I also try to let them know when I think they've done something right -- and they've done quite a few things right.

What is pervasive in this community that I have not seen anywhere else is the level of mistrust and discontent of a very vocal crowd in this community. I've lived in a lot of small communities, but Enid, by far, has the worst "poor me" community attitude of any city I've lived in. And I've lived in communities that had had far fewer economic and quality of life advantages than Enid has. I think the pervasiveness of this attitude has sometimes turned into self-fulfilling prophecy.

I have valued my time in Enid and I see the potential and good things the community has to offer. I also see a real desire by many inside and outside of the city government to try to make things better, more attractive and more lucrative for business and industries here. There are a lot of things in place to take advantage of economic development opportunity.

And taxes? Count your blessings. I'm getting ready to pay a whole bunch more taxes -- property and sales taxes -- when I move to a larger city. The way I figure it will be double what I'm paying now.



It depends on where you are locating to in the OKC area. OKC itself has millage rates varying from 104 to 130 depending on the school district. The city of Edmond varies from 95.92 to 114.48 again depending on the school district. The Deer Creek school district is expanding rapidly and millage rates are higher for those parts of Edmond and OKC that utilize these schools. I have property north of Edmond in Logan County that is in the Deer Creek school district and the millage rate is 112. The millage rate in Enid is 107 mills. At the very worst property tax in the OKC area should not be more than 22% higher and could actually be less depending on location. There does not seem to be much difference in the valuation of real estate for properties exceeding $100,000. That is, properties valued at more than $100,000 seem to be comparable to those in Enid. Below $100,000 it is a totally different story.

Sales tax in OKC is 8.38% versus 8.35% in Enid so it would cost an extra 3 cents on every $100. On the other side, groceries are cheaper in OKC as is gasoline. There is sometimes 15 to 20 cents difference in gas prices between Edmond and Enid. In many Braums stores, milk is 10-12 cents cheaper per gallon than it is in Enid. Even the prices on certain items of WALMART's own brand are cheaper in the Edmond WALMART than they are in Enid. So perhaps in the long run the move will not result in increased expenses.
 
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What is pervasive in this community that I have not seen anywhere else is the level of mistrust and discontent of a very vocal crowd in this community. I've lived in a lot of small communities, but Enid, by far, has the worst "poor me" community attitude of any city I've lived in. And I've lived in communities that had had far fewer economic and quality of life advantages than Enid has. I think the pervasiveness of this attitude has sometimes turned into self-fulfilling prophecy.


That is very true. Life is what you make it and I have a feeling that a lot of people would be miserable no matter where they landed, but it's easier to place the blame somewhere else rather than taking up the reins of your own life and doing something positive for yourself.

“The only Zen you find on tops of mountains is the Zen you bring there” ~ Robert M. Pirsig
 
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No matter what anyone does or does not do, says or does not say, there will always be someone who sees things differently. The problem comes from those who don't understand that and feel the need to argue rather than discuss/debate and in doing so turn things into a grade school shouting match rather than an intelligent adult discussion/debate.
 
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What is pervasive in this community that I have not seen anywhere else is the level of mistrust and discontent of a very vocal crowd in this community. I've lived in a lot of small communities, but Enid, by far, has the worst "poor me" community attitude of any city I've lived in. And I've lived in communities that had had far fewer economic and quality of life advantages than Enid has. I think the pervasiveness of this attitude has sometimes turned into self-fulfilling prophecy.


That is very true. Life is what you make it and I have a feeling that a lot of people would be miserable no matter where they landed, but it's easier to place the blame somewhere else rather than taking up the reins of your own life and doing something positive for yourself.
“The only Zen you find on tops of mountains is the Zen you bring there” ~ Robert M. Pirsig


You hit the nail right on the head and hammered it in solid! It took me so long to figure this out. Thankfully, I did figure it out before it was to late!
 
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i wouldn't want to live in OKC, mostly because I still have a child in public school. After I graduated from OU, I did research on schools in central OK. I decided to stay in Norman, tho it's so very expensive. We have AWESOME schools!! I wouldn't want my kids in any other public schools in Oklahoma. If I could afford private schools, it wouldn't matter.

If I were childless or they were fully grown, I would consider the new cool trendy locations in Bricktown and surrounding areas.

Good luck to you, Cindy!!
 
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I have valued my time in Enid and I see the potential and good things the community has to offer.


Cindy, "Mr.K" said to tell you that your leaving will be a tremendous loss to Enid. So much of what you do goes unnoticed by the public, but he notices and wonders how the paper will fare once you have moved on.

We both wish you well in OKC. It's on the move and a good place to plant your future. I hope you find a venue where the journalist inside can be unleashed.
 
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I welcome anyone assisting with the rental, sale, or the negotiation for rental or sale of the Homeland building or any other building that is sitting vacant in Enid. I would love to see something done with the old Wal-Mart build. Empty buildings (especially ones the have a main arterial street frontage) reflect poorly upon a city.

Times are a changing. We can no longer depend on the Federal government or even the state government to insure that our community is a viable and sustainable community. It all rests on our shoulders. Enid needs to look at its self and ask what do we need to do to be a place that business would want to locate to. Business when looking at a community asks why should I locate here, or why should I stay here. People follow the jobs business provide, how many are moving to OKC in the up coming months?

Gone are the days when a community could say, “We are a good place to live and raise a family” and have that the selling point to attract business and residents. Business needs a local government and community that are friendly to it. People need more than just a place to live and work, they want infrastructure both public and private. Sitting on our backsides and doing nothing will insure that business will leave and the community will decay.
 
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Agreed.

Apparently the old Wal Mart building is now an Atwoods warehouse. Personally, I think they should put up some signage showing as much so it doesn't sit there looking like an abandoned building.
 
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