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Originally posted by tru-ba-maker:
There is nothing ironic in this thread GBG. I am just catching up with my friend Fred.

Do you believe that you can further the cause of “intelligence” with posts on the internet?

I answered your question above over in the Rush thread.

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Originally posted by glitterbootygirl:
Who is the dude in the OP photograph?

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Originally posted by ironhead:
Glitter, while I am one of your fans and all, I have to disagree with you about the Christians not having intellectuals in their midst. You are an activist for a good cause, and political as well, but IMO you are showing bias and stereotyping the whole of the Christian movement. Being a former teacher and all, you know that there are Christians with Masters, Doctors, and PHD's out there. I know one, who I went to college where he was the number two man, and after retirement, he is a pastor now. I have heard a sermon of his, where he acknowledged he knows pastors in the Christian ranks, who believe in Jesus the man, but not the risen savior. There are then those that have open minds, which I think you are getting at. Correct me if I missed your point.

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Originally posted by ironhead:
I researched the def of intellectual and while not getting into the definition, believe that what you are referring to is that you can't be an intellectual and literally believe that Jesus was a man/God and after death rose again, as well as the Virgin Birth. This is what I derived from it and is only my opinion of course. What I understand is that in order to be a Christian you have to believe that or what would the point of Christianity be! The fundies believe you have to take it on faith and believe it with all your heart. That is why even though I have been in and out of Church for all my years, I still am a wannabe, because I have a hard time accepting the total belief without reservation thing. I am not an intellectual either, but have a vast amount of knowledge in my chosen fields before retirement and an open mind, I tell myself that anyway.

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Originally posted by ironhead:
I have researched similar info, not sure it is the same authors, but will research those authors. What I am going on is what I can believe and from my earliest being taken to a Methodist Church by my mom, had problems accepting all the theology presented. When I would have questions for the adults and later when I was an adult, it was always take it on faith. I was advised to stick to the Evangelical Christian belief system and not to study any other belief systems. I always and especially since the computer age have researched all the religions, as well as the non belief systems. There are just questions that cannot be answered until death in my humble opinion Tim.

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Originally posted by ironhead:
I researched the def of intellectual and while not getting into the definition, believe that what you are referring to is that you can't be an intellectual and literally believe that Jesus was a man/God and after death rose again, as well as the Virgin Birth. This is what I derived from it and is only my opinion of course. What I understand is that in order to be a Christian you have to believe that or what would the point of Christianity be! The fundies believe you have to take it on faith and believe it with all your heart. That is why even though I have been in and out of Church for all my years, I still am a wannabe, because I have a hard time accepting the total belief without reservation thing. I am not an intellectual either, but have a vast amount of knowledge in my chosen fields before retirement and an open mind, I tell myself that anyway.