Hey Enid! Kokomo forum is gone, so I thought that I would give a shout out to the remnant who are left!
This is such a crucial issue, that I have been spreading the news to all parents of school children.
My wife is the PFO (PTA;PTO) president of our local school system. She called the principle and verified that Obama will be speaking to the kids by video next week. September 8 is the target day, but our school will be doing it by class for a couple of days. This was not taken before the PTO OR the school board! It is a backdoor effort for Obama to indoctrinate young children pre-K through 12!
Please read the link, and tell everyone you know. Time is ticking to inform parents of what is happening.
This is really not unprecedented. A certain leader of Germany a generation ago also went after the children when his popularity was waning...and we all know how that all worked out!
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If I had children in that school, mine would stay home that day. There had better be no repercussions on the child either. The should take it up with me.
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If President Obama sparks questions or dialogue with my children and I can't present a reasoned and rational counter argument to anything he says to which I disagree then I'm not a very good parent.
I think there's a little paranoia about this whole topic of the president giving an address to school children. I don't think it's such a bad idea. However, the conspiracy theorists believe that it's not the president's speech that could be objectionable, but the class sylabus or lesson plans that teachers may use to go along with it.
I do have to wonder what the reaction from the Left would have been had President George W. Bush determined he was going to make an address to school children.
To me, the U.S. President making a speech to school children encouraging them to work hard and make their dreams come true could be a wonderful thing. But, because we are so polarized as a nation, people only see it as a way to "indoctrinate" kids.
Its too bad everyone sees a bogeyman in the closet when it comes to leaders of either political party.
Posts: 893 | Location: Enid, OK | Registered: June 19, 2007
I was certainly no fan of George W. Bush, but had he given an address to school children, I would have been impressed.
Who are their role models? Celebrities, atheletes, rap artists? Their pictures are on posters in the schools encouraging kids to read. That's fine, but how much better to have the President of the United States speak? Maybe there will be children who begin to think of a political future for themselves, or who begin to ask political questions and become aware of a political world. They are our future and we need strong leaders to take the reins of our government as we pass on.
I'm glad he thought of it. Bigdadda is right. Be prepared to discuss. What better starter for a family talk fest?
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The worksheets for the kids after the speech asks teachers to write on the chalk boards, quotes from Obama about education. It also asks the kids what they think of the president's speech. It is all about casting the president in a good light to kids who are unable to even vote! Leave politics out of the classroom, and try getting those math grades up to the standards with the rest of the developed world!
Get 'em young while they are naive and impressionable. Then one day, we will be able to use the kids to report on their parents if they leave they use the wrong light bulb, speak disrespectfully of the glorious leader, or have information of where people of certain heritage may be hiding from 'the party'.
Posts: 9140 | Location: houston; PA | Registered: May 18, 2006
Originally posted by ENE Editor: I think there's a little paranoia about this whole topic of the president giving an address to school children. I don't think it's such a bad idea. However, the conspiracy theorists believe that it's not the president's speech that could be objectionable, but the class sylabus or lesson plans that teachers may use to go along with it.
I do have to wonder what the reaction from the Left would have been had President George W. Bush determined he was going to make an address to school children.
To me, the U.S. President making a speech to school children encouraging them to work hard and make their dreams come true could be a wonderful thing. But, because we are so polarized as a nation, people only see it as a way to "indoctrinate" kids.
Its too bad everyone sees a bogeyman in the closet when it comes to leaders of either political party.
Dear Edid folks, kenlori has made a career of paranoia. He suggests that schools should not be political while, in fact, public education is one of the most highly political systems in the US. Hell, his wife is a PTA leader but he doesn't want it to be political. Of course, he doesn't want students to think for themselves because they will see though weak arguments regardless of the ideology. Give ol ken a pass.
Posts: 1810 | Location: Three time zones away! | Registered: February 21, 2007
Barack Obama is my President, regardless of whether or not I agree with him, and I, for one, find the schoolchildren chat perfectly acceptable. I disagree with many of the man's policies, but I want my children to be the next generation of patriots, and if there were a way to get homeschool kids in on the broadcast, I can assure you that mine would be watching.
There are many things Obama has done that are worthy of criticism, in my opinion. This is not one of them.
If President Obama sparks questions or dialogue with my children and I can't present a reasoned and rational counter argument to anything he says to which I disagree then I'm not a very good parent.
I don't know about lessons that cast Obama in a good light, but I would certainly like for our president to be a role model to children. Political policies and ideaology are certainly ripe for adult debate, but if our kids can't look up to the president of the United States, who do we want them to look up to? As LK said, kids' options now are musicians, movie stars and athletes, many who make a career out of getting into trouble.
It's time our lawmakers understand they have a more awesome responsibility than they may realize. They are building a future for our children. Yet, with the trillions in debt, that future is on very shaky ground.
Posts: 893 | Location: Enid, OK | Registered: June 19, 2007
ENE editor: I cannot agree more. Education should be about questioning social reality, not defining it. I disagreed often with the previous administration and I disagree often with this adminsitration. Polarizing the curriculum is politics of the worst kind. Politicizing the curriculum encourages dialogue and questions. We should not tell students what to think but help them to think. Critical thinking requires information and continual reflection on values and attitudes towards social obligations. For some, life is about the destination for me life is about the journey.
Posts: 1810 | Location: Three time zones away! | Registered: February 21, 2007
Originally posted by ENE Editor: I don't know about lessons that cast Obama in a good light, but I would certainly like for our president to be a role model to children. Political policies and ideaology are certainly ripe for adult debate, but if our kids can't look up to the president of the United States, who do we want them to look up to? As LK said, kids' options now are musicians, movie stars and athletes, many who make a career out of getting into trouble.
It's time our lawmakers understand they have a more awesome responsibility than they may realize. They are building a future for our children. Yet, with the trillions in debt, that future is on very shaky ground.
I'm not an Obamanite but on this I agree that the President should be a role model. This works both ways, not only should the kids be able to look up to the prez, the prez should be a good example for the kids.
Posts: 4072 | Location: NO, you are NOT a racist just because you don't like being lied to, stolen from and ridiculed for speaking out about it. You are America. | Registered: July 25, 2007
Originally posted by ENE Editor: I don't know about lessons that cast Obama in a good light, but I would certainly like for our president to be a role model to children. Political policies and ideaology are certainly ripe for adult debate, but if our kids can't look up to the president of the United States, who do we want them to look up to? As LK said, kids' options now are musicians, movie stars and athletes, many who make a career out of getting into trouble.
It's time our lawmakers understand they have a more awesome responsibility than they may realize. They are building a future for our children. Yet, with the trillions in debt, that future is on very shaky ground.
So our children should look up to the man who placed them "trillions in debt"?
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