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So then tell me...
Why is there still Monkeys? If monkeys evoled into me & you...Why is there still monkeys?

No. Learn for yourself. There is lots of material available on the internet. Simply type "hominid evolution" into a search engine and have at it. Ignorance is not your friend, SS.
 
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kenlori has a group of self-proclaimed Christians who claim to follow Thou Shalt Not Lie sitting around and promoting LYING and PERJURY and STEALING (of gullible people's money).

What's great about Ken and about 99% of other clueless fundies is that they don't even know what actual arguments are being advance for creationism. They get so caught up in doing the We-Too-Stupid Mamba with evolution that they forget to read the writings of their idiot in chiefs, aka The Discovery Institute.

FWIW - The Discovery Institute is having some fund raising difficulties since the refused to perjure themselves by testifying at Dover. Apparently the Luddite community took it pretty hard and voting with their pocket book.
 
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I'm not ignorant because I do not believe as you do. I've studied evolution and alot of different religions. But between you, me and everyonelse those 'apes & monkeys' haven't amazed me anyway. Yet! God amazes me every morning and every day. Call me crazy, call me foolish, call me ignorant. But I believe life is a gift from God. Angel
 
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I've studied evolution...

No you haven't. Your original question proves that you have not.
 
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I just don't believe in evolution. I never have. Even when that daughter and farther said they had found a skull to prove it. I still did not believe in evolution. Which the skull later after years of belief was found to be a fake. (I can't remember daughter and farther's names.)

I just don't believe in evolution.

I do believe as time goes on, time brings change.
 
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I just don't believe in evolution.

I don't "believe in it" either. I accept the fact of evolution. What other physical sciences do you not believe in? Statics? Dyanamics? Hydrology? Anatomy perhaps? It seems quite odd that people would pick elements of physical reality to simply not accept. I really be careful about not believing in friction and conservation of momentum. That could have dire consequences.

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I never have. Even when that daughter and farther said they had found a skull to prove it. I still did not believe in evolution. Which the skull later after years of belief was found to be a fake. (I can't remember daughter and farther's names.)

So, you have a vague notion of some fake skull perperated by a father and daughter team that you can't remember the name of, and on that basis you dismiss an entire science? Is you ignorance a source of pride, SS? Does being absolutely and complete uninformed and abjectly ingornant about a branch science which is fundamental to the working of the planet give you some sense of self fulfillment? Shame on you! You are better than that.
 
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No, no, Fred. You aren't dealing with a CW or a Freethinker here. This sweet lady has never called a name or sneered at a comment or said anything PERSONAL that was not thoughtful and kind.

Please do her the honor of giving her facts for fallacy and information for disinformation without attacking her intelligence and crying shame. Help her to think, please--she has a brain and a good one and, I guarantee, attacking her intelligence will shut that brain down so fast that nothing will get through.

Batter away at the willful who give back in kind, but hold the light for those gentle souls who pluck up the courage to step into this rough and tumble place. She is not where you are or where I am on this, but she has set foot on the road and will make her way. She doesn't need howling from the trees.
 
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To the evolutionists: What difference does it matter if people do not believe in Evolution? What is going to happen to them? According to most of you and evolution we will live and die without a God and just cease existing. So what does it change for some to want to believe in a loving God and taking courage and solace from it?
To me it is just a case of "I am right and everyone else needs to think this way too". Or I am right and I want the world to acknowledge it.
Otherwise arrogance and lack of tolerance for others beliefs and opinions.
Hey its ok, I don't care. You aren't going to change my opinion nor others. But really, calling others ignorant and shaming them for what they believe is ridiculous. Back off and give others room to breathe and think. It won't change anything and is an exercise in futility.
 
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What is it do I believe?

I believe we are foolish if we think we are the only planet with life in the big open space.

I believe that life in every aspect is truly amazing.

I believe that there is miracles that happen in life that just can't be explained.

I believe that there is a dark side and a bright side to death. (I've witnesses alot of death working in the medical field.)

I believe there is a God I know there is a God because He answers my prayers in away that there is no doult.

I believe that there is somethings in life I don't need rock solide science to tell me what my life is about because I already know.

I believe that sometimes our education goes to far in the medical field and science field to where we can't see anymore to what is right in front of us. Sometimes that 'life support' system needs to be let go. Sometimes in life you don't need a fossil to tell you what you already know in your heart.

Thats what I believe...when I witness a miracle I embrace it.
 
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Amen and well said Still
 
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To the evolutionists: What difference does it matter if people do not believe in Evolution? What is going to happen to them? According to most of you and evolution we will live and die without a God and just cease existing. So what does it change for some to want to believe in a loving God and taking courage and solace from it?
To me it is just a case of "I am right and everyone else needs to think this way too". Or I am right and I want the world to acknowledge it.
Otherwise arrogance and lack of tolerance for others beliefs and opinions.
Hey its ok, I don't care. You aren't going to change my opinion nor others. But really, calling others ignorant and shaming them for what they believe is ridiculous. Back off and give others room to breathe and think. It won't change anything and is an exercise in futility.
The problem with your opinion is that not believing in evolution is tantamount to not believing in science. Evolution is a fact, how many times has that been posted? the tons of evidence for it are housed in the world's natural history museums.

Science is a necessary subject throughout school, from k-12. When you say "so what if they don't believe in evolution" you have just effectively removed the entire fields of biology and medicine from their foundations of knowledge, because evolution underpins both fields.

Of course you would have had to graduate high school to have learned that part and maybe that's the problem with yer posts?

If you want to post that you don't believe the Earth is round, go ahead, but the rest of us are going to laugh at you. Ditto with saying you don't believe in evolution. Evolution is a fact that is not open to debate. It has occurred, it has been documented, it is a FACT.

Saying you don't believe in FACTS just makes people laugh at you.
 
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What is it do I believe?

I believe we are foolish if we think we are the only planet with life in the big open space.

I believe that life in every aspect is truly amazing.

I believe that there is miracles that happen in life that just can't be explained.

I believe that there is a dark side and a bright side to death. (I've witnesses alot of death working in the medical field.)

I believe there is a God I know there is a God because He answers my prayers in away that there is no doult.

I believe that there is somethings in life I don't need rock solide science to tell me what my life is about because I already know.

I believe that sometimes our education goes to far in the medical field and science field to where we can't see anymore to what is right in front of us. Sometimes that 'life support' system needs to be let go. Sometimes in life you don't need a fossil to tell you what you already know in your heart.

Thats what I believe...when I witness a miracle I embrace it.
I believe everything you just stated here as well.

I also believe that evolution is the most amazing process on earth and I stand in awe of it. Evolution is a fact, the evidence for it is literally weighed in tons. I could take you to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History and we could walk through time, starting 3.6 billion years ago when unicellular life first appeared on earth. The record is vast and has been documented and documented and documented.

When scientists say Theory of Evolution they're talking about the mechanism which is Natural Selection. It's the same idea when we say gravity is a fact but the mechanism is theoretical.

Other scientific theories include the Cell Theory (all life is made of cells), the Germ Theory (germs/microbes cause disease), the Theory of Plate Tectonics (aka continental drift), the Theory of Relativity, the Theory of Quantum Mechanics, and many more.
 
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You paid money to listen to Dr. Dino? Will he be teleconferencing from his prison cell?

LOLOL

Are some of the Dover perjurers gonna be there?

What's wrong with this picture?

Will they show this film? The one the Creationists put together using a FRONT COMPANY to fool professors into working with them?

kenlori has a group of self-proclaimed Christians who claim to follow Thou Shalt Not Lie sitting around and promoting LYING and PERJURY and STEALING (of gullible people's money).

Will the Moon Recession Liars be there?

And here's the anonymous kenlori whose wife is PTO President claiming how christ-like they all are.

Will you be watching the Fake Video that was Deceptively Edited of Richard Dawkins? Naughty naughty Bearing False Witness Against Your Neighbor.Tsk tsk

What a SICK and TWISTED ideology to lie and steal for Christ. Roll Eyes

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Ironically, I will be sitting in on an evolution vs creation forum in McCandless, PA tomorrow. I will check back in a couple of days to see if any of you have matured enough to debate like adults......


Since you brought up Dawkins, why don't we let him answer the question in his own words? Regardless of the claims of a falsified video, the fact is that he never answers yes, because he cannot give any example of any genetic mutations that increase information to the genetic evolutionary process. Period. Case closed. Theory of evolution proven wrong. One does not need even a high school diploma to see that evolution theory is baseless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN1ZIBcN2g4
 
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Yawn, yer posting the edited version which is basically a Breitbart lie. Go look up the correct version and let Dawkins address it.

Lies lies all lies.

It's all the creation camp has.
 
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kenlori has a group of self-proclaimed Christians who claim to follow Thou Shalt Not Lie sitting around and promoting LYING and PERJURY and STEALING (of gullible people's money).

What's great about Ken and about 99% of other clueless fundies is that they don't even know what actual arguments are being advance for creationism. They get so caught up in doing the We-Too-Stupid Mamba with evolution that they forget to read the writings of their idiot in chiefs, aka The Discovery Institute.

FWIW - The Discovery Institute is having some fund raising difficulties since the refused to perjure themselves by testifying at Dover. Apparently the Luddite community took it pretty hard and voting with their pocket book.


Dude! You prove me correct with every post! Maybe you can answer for Dawkins since you must have a much superior intellect than even he?
 
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