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Originally posted by podunk:
Yea. Funny. But, If I shot a dog with a 50 cent bullet and they asked me if i did it or knew anthing about it, I'd have to own up or lie. Wouldn't I?

Inless you were deposed or under oath, you don't have to say anything. If the court system is used to track down missing stray dogs, there's some of that waste you mentioned.

You mean like do the tick-o-lock thing with your fingers like you're locking your lips and then makin' like you're throwin away the key.

John Wayne would be proud of you.

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Originally posted by podunk:
You mean like do the tick-o-lock thing with your fingers like you're locking your lips and then makin' like you're throwin away the key.

John Wayne would be proud of you.

Like if you don't take care of your own pets, you don't have the right to ask me to.

You're absolutey a paragon of honor, sot.

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Originally posted by Rupertsurvives:

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Originally posted by kristi:
SOT, Are you saying you shot a dog over 300 dollars worth of plants? You killed a family pet because you lacked the words and/or skills to deal with your neighbor and resolve the situation?

So if a family pet is worth killing over $300, how much damage would your neighbor have to do to your property to kill him? $1,000, $2,500?

I hope your neighbor calls the police and you are charged with felony animal cruelty. You are a danger to society and deserve jail time.

Many of us have thought that the profilers from Criminal Minds should walk SOT's perimeter.

And SOT doesn't stand for Smart Old Timer so all of SOT's neighbors might use that microchip to track their pets.
One would think that someone who owns 200 free and clear acres would be able to afford a proper fence to protect these mysterious expensive plants.

The moral of the story may be; don't buy a home next to a 200 acre property owner unless you like the sound of bang!

Again how much land does it take to plant $300 worth of expensive plants. If they each cost $10 that is thirty plants. Since they are said to be expensive i figure you bought ten plants max.

God has a great view of your fence line!

I'd shoot a dog or anything else if it was absolutely necessary. But, damned if I'd lie about it.

back in '08, when I was running for state House, I was walking and campaigning in Watonga. Out of the corner of my eye I saw something comming at me fast. It was a Pit Bull. It was dragging a chain and for a split second my thought was that in a second it'll hit the end of that chain and stop. Wrong.

The other end of the chain wasn't attached to anything. That dog latched onto my left arm and the fight was on. Had I been armed I would have shot that dog.

I beat that dog with me fist for all I was worth and all I could think of was that I'd heard that when they latch onto something they don't turn loose till they kill it or till they're dead.

In the heat of the fight maybe I had that confused with what I'd always heard about snapping turtles. Anyhow, I fought the thing off and got back to my car.

I'll do what I have to do. But, damned if I'll lie about it.

I don't think sanity is back yet, D.

It's just sot. Who used to be known as Spirit of Truth.

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Originally posted by Rupertsurvives:

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Originally posted by Rupertsurvives:

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Originally posted by kristi:
SOT, Are you saying you shot a dog over 300 dollars worth of plants? You killed a family pet because you lacked the words and/or skills to deal with your neighbor and resolve the situation?

So if a family pet is worth killing over $300, how much damage would your neighbor have to do to your property to kill him? $1,000, $2,500?

I hope your neighbor calls the police and you are charged with felony animal cruelty. You are a danger to society and deserve jail time.

Many of us have thought that the profilers from Criminal Minds should walk SOT's perimeter.

And SOT doesn't stand for Smart Old Timer so all of SOT's neighbors might use that microchip to track their pets.
One would think that someone who owns 200 free and clear acres would be able to afford a proper fence to protect these mysterious expensive plants.

The moral of the story may be; don't buy a home next to a 200 acre property owner unless you like the sound of bang!

Again how much land does it take to plant $300 worth of expensive plants. If they each cost $10 that is thirty plants. Since they are said to be expensive i figure you bought ten plants max.

God has a great view of your fence line!

That Kristi seems a hate filled thing, Rube knows nothing about plants and shooting a stray dog has nothing to do with cruelty. My new neighbor has a dog and I have several that aren't allowed to damage any one elses property. One sleeps on the bed with me and my wife , one sleeps in the laundry room and the others sleep in their kennels where they are well taken care of and kept out of neighbors garbage cans, chicken houses, and out of the way of traffic that will eventually run over any dog that is allowed to roam freely. Animal cruelty is allowing dogs free range where they are attacked by other dogs, run over by cars and bite the little neighbor girl. Happens thousands of times a day over the US. Definitely lots more dogbites, and car collisions than strays that get iced for chasing cows or destroying property.

4.7 million people are bitten by dogs each year with an average of 26 fatalities per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack

It is widely accepted that almost 10 million pets are euthanized annually, most are those that are just allowed to run free. That's really humane.

The norfolk Va. PETA headquarters evidently kills them and freezes them until they can be cramated, to the tune of 23,000 animals the past ten years. Didn't fire a shot though!LOL

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
Nothing has changed, if you let your pet run free you have no consideration for it or your neighbor. The only two stray dogs I have shot in my life included one that bit my grandkids, and the other was rabid and it took several of my neighbors "shooting on sight" to finally kill it or it died of the rabies which only takes 4-7 days. We did find it dead later.

I've shot quite a few coyotes but only a fraction of those I wish I had. Coyotes will kill most free ranging dogs upon contact. That isn't a pretty sight either and most inhumane to be ripped apart bit by bit but maybe as good as getting dragged under a car until dead, can't say for sure.
It isn't really humane to see a baby calf with it's nose ripped off by a pit bull but it is much better than seeing a 2 year old kid with their face ripped off which happens a few hundred times a year by unrestrained dogs.

As far as the law it is on my side if I shoot a dog chasing livestock and any damages caused by the dog are the responsibility of the dog owner.

Any more questions??

I have personally seen several occasions where feral dogs breed with coyotes.

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Originally posted by OkVol:
Why limit hunting for food to deer? Some sweet and sour terrier would quieten my neighborhood.

I have a cure for that too, same as the ODWC cure for deer. I did learn from experience, it is not best to give your neighbor advance warning that if they don't take care of their dogs you will, it is best just to quietly dispatch them and pretend you don't know where they went. I don't understand how someone can claim they love their dog and allow it to run loose through traffic and in other people's garbage and trash and expect them to not react. My last experience was that the neighbor got mad at me after his dog tore up 300 dollars worth of plants and I asked him to keep the dog up. I learned a lesson then. Rifle shells cost me about 50 cents to load and spending 50 cents to save 300 bucks and a mad neighbor is a good deal to me. The key is not to complain, just take care of business.

Man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. Your a regular ******* John Wayne. Well, except for the pretendin' part, I guess.

But, why lie about it? Especially if you've done nothing wrong?

I'm gettin' tired of telling the truth. Why don't you long time viewers step up and you other once-a-monthers. Its only fair!

Having fought off several free-ranging mutts that have attacked my husband's guide dog, I can tell you that I am not an advocate for letting dogs run free. However, to assume that every animal off-leash is wild is extremely simplistic. And killing just because one can says more about the killer than the dog.

Bucky is the most gentle and affectionate Yellow Lab you'll ever find. Generations of breeding have created the perfect guide animal--loving, attentive to people and their needs, friendly, trusting. He is 10 years old, nearing retirement from guide work, and being allowed a few more dog privileges in preparation for the day that the harness is put away for good.

Often, Mr.K lets him out in the yard to visit his buds across the fence. It's a securely fenced yard with two gates and the gates are the problem. Every now and then, someone opens the gate and leaves it open. We've tried locks but someone cuts them off--not a utility worker. Bucky has gotten out probably 5 times in 10 years and he always runs over to inspect our neighbors' yards down the street from home--looking for other dogs to play with, a treat that, as a working dog, he seldom gets to enjoy.

Is he a wild dog? Is it OK to shoot him because he is off leash and in your yard? That's a $50,000 animal, highly trained, and the eyes for a man who can't get out of the house without him. I am thankful that our neighbors are more restrained than that. So far, I have found him every time. But if he is ever harmed, especially if he is shot, that 50 cent bullet will turn into a $50,000 civil lawsuit and a criminal charge with a fine and/or imprisonment. I'll go for imprisonment.

Oklahoma's Guide Dog Protection Law

"However, to assume that every animal off-leash is wild is extremely simplistic. And killing just because one can says more about the killer than the dog."

You sure nailed it there. Simplistic, simple-minded,,, all the same. It's the get them before they get us mentality. A preemptive strike sort of thing. Don't wory about finding out what's goin on. Just shoot first and ask questions later. Well, actually,,,,,,,,don't ask questions. And,,,,damned sure don't ANSWER any.

It's the John Wayne code of conduct. What could possibaly go wrong?

LOL! Sanity has just taken a wrong turn! not so optimistic that sanity will return.